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The Real Jesus
We are in correspondence with many Jw's, ex-JW's, confused Christians, concerned Christians, Pastors, unsaved families etc. etc. Recently, I received two letters from a person trying to come free from years of mind control and indoctrination in the JW's. The questions are so typical, I thought it would be helpful to answer them in article form.
Question 1: I had listened to your tape on "Jehovah's Witnesses and the Real Jesus"...You made a statement that Jesus was Jehovah God in the flesh. In the account before Jesus died, in Mark 14:35-42, and also Luke 22: 39-46, Jesus was praying. He was so much under stress that his sweat became blood. Who was Jesus praying to? If Jesus was Jehovah God, would he be praying to himself? Answer me this question please.
Answer: It is very difficult for a person steeped in JW doctrine on God to grasp the dual nature of Jesus Christ. They are programmed to think of Jehovah alone as Creator, and Jesus Christ as His first act of creation. This would make Jesus Christ a creature, not eternal, and only a man on earth. JW's also make Jesus the Archangel Michael. Therein lies the problem. Jesus Christ has been totally misrepresented by the JW's. We need to clear matters up one point at a time. First off, Jesus is eternal, NOT created. If He is eternal (and He is), He is also God, just as 1 Timothy 1:17 says of Jesus Christ, "Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God be honor and glory forever and ever, Amen." (NAS).
I can just hear you saying "Wait a minute"..Jesus can't be the "only God" because Jehovah is the only God". JW's will trot out the old tired argument that Jesus is just "a god". Wrong. There is only one true God revealed in the pages of the Bible. This one, true, God has presented Himself as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. This plain Bible teaching has come to be called the Tri-unity or trinity. I realize you are programmed to react viciously to that term, due to your indoctrination against it, but try and bear with me a moment.
We both agree the Father Jehovah is called "Almighty God", but so is Jesus Christ! Both Jehovah and Jesus share these titles: Please look up the scriptures in the chart following:
Now that we have established that Jesus Christ is indeed God, we have to move on to the brief time He walked the face of this earth. Philippians 2:6 begins with the central truth that Jesus never ceased being in the form of God. That's point one to keep in mind. Secondly, He was about to humble Himself and walk the face of the earth as a man, setting aside for a time His equality with God the Father, Jehovah. Jehovah said He would do this in Psalms 113:5,6.
As you read on in Philippians 2, verse 8, you will see that He humbled Himself to the point of dying on the tree.
This brief time of humbling was necessary to fulfill God's perfect law. A perfect man (Christ) had to buy back (ransom) what a perfect man (Adam) had lost. An eye for an eye, a life for a life.
While Jesus was on earth functioning as a perfect man, he set an example for His followers, including praying. Who was he praying to? He was praying to the Father. He promised to send the Holy Spirit when he ascended. People in Bible times often witnessed just one manifestation or personage of God during Jesus' earthly lifetime. Often, the Persons of the Father and Holy Spirit were elsewhere. The three Persons of the Godhead do speak to each other throughout Scripture. Jesus (on earth functioning as a man) was speaking to His Heavenly Father, setting the example for us.
He taught that for this brief, earthly time he was in subjection or submission to the Father. He was in no way inferior. When He said the Father was greater than He, the timeframe was his earthly sojourn. The word "greater" in Greek does not mean "inferior" as the WT teaches. It does mean He was in a lower position during His humility.
How do we know this is true? Colossians 2:8,9 warns against the very heresy that JW's teach:
"See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form".
Ah, yes! All is all, and full is full, and even when Christ was in "bodily form", in the flesh, He still had all the fullness of Deity (Godhead; Godship; God).
Jehovah's Witnesses form their theology by taking the Scriptures dealing with the humanity of Jesus Christ and trying to apply them to His Deity. Can't be done!
Basically, understanding the time Jesus spent on the earth (God ..Ho Theos ..with us--Matthew 1:23) as His humanity, helps us understand His dual nature. Truly God, truly man.
Question 2: If Jehovah God created the heavens alone, who was He talking to in Genesis 1:26, when Jehovah said, "Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness"?
ANSWER: As in question 1, here again we find the wrong concept of God coloring the situation. I won't repeat everything about God already answered in question 1, except to say that in the nature of the One, True God, we see three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. All three are present at creation, the Father and Son talking to each other and the Spirit moving over the waters. One God, Three Persons throughout the Bible.
Question 3: Proverbs 8 brings out how Jehovah created someone, starting in verse 22, from times earlier than the Earth. Verse 26 when as yet he had not made the Earth and the open spaces and the first part of the dust masses of the productive land. Verse 27 says that when Jehovah prepared the heavens I was there. Verse 30, then I came to be beside him as a master worker. Master worker meaning Jesus was the agent or instrumentality through whom Jehovah, the Creator, worked. Jesus himself credited Jehovah with creation as the scriptures do.
ANSWER: Here is a classic example of how JW's twist the Scriptures to try and make them fit their peculiar theology. To understand Proverbs, chapter 8, we need to begin with verse l, not verse 22 to see the correct context.
Verse 1 says, "Does not wisdom call, and understanding lift up her voice?" We know "wisdom" can't "call" and nor can "understanding" "lift up her voice" literally, so what have we here? We have a use of the language called "personification", that is, giving inanimate objects characteristics of humans. Another example is when "the trees clap their hands" in praise to God.
This chapter is completely concerned with wisdom. This is in the feminine tense in Hebrew, and by no stretch of the imagination can it be made to be the Person of Jesus Christ.
Notice how the theme of wisdom continues down throughout the chapter, for example, verse 11 "wisdom is better than jewels; verse 12, "I wisdom, dwell with prudence", verse 14, "counsel is mine and sound wisdom"...get the idea? The subject is WISDOM!
Verse 22, "The Lord possessed me at the beginning of His way". Please note, the Lord did not "produce" (as mistranslated on purpose by the JW's). Verse 23 says "from everlasting I was established". "Everlasting" means "eternal"--not at some point in time. Of course, God possessed wisdom. Otherwise He could not have created on such a grand scale!
Regarding your reference to verse 26, of course God possessed wisdom even before the time He began creating! Verse 30 states that wisdom was beside Him as a master workman. Thank God, He created with wisdom and order and not chaos!
Chapter nine continues on the very same theme ..."Wisdom has built her house". Now really, does this sound like Jesus Christ? Only in Watchtower theology!
The attempted WT link-up of 1 Corinthians 1:24 with Proverbs, chapter 8 is similarly weak. "but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God".
Does this mean that we are to take all the Scriptures referring to "power" and say they are referring to Jesus Christ? Of course not. Neither are we to take the Scriptures from one chapter of the Bible on the subject of wisdom and misapply them to Jesus. Bad theology!
Question 4: "Anyway, I'm no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses because of personal reasons, so I am disfellowshipped. How are we to win over our family, if we are to stay away from them?"
Answer: Good question! The harsh practice of disfellowshipping is just one part of the JW strategy to break you away from your real family and substitute the "JW family" in its place. Shunning is cruel and was only used in the most extreme circumstances in the Bible, yet JW's shun at every opportunity. They are so afraid existing members might get set free if they talk to ones who leave. Thus their ban on all outside sources. JW's cannot even go on the internet and examine matters for themselves. Forbidden! Modern-day slavery and mind control! Be glad you are out. Now you need to get their twisted theology out of you!
The only way to be truly free is to be free in Christ. I enclose the booklets, "Jehovah's Witnesses and the Real Jesus", "Could Jesus be "a god"?", and "Is the Trinity True" for you to go over with your Bible. Also enclosed is information on how you can trust Jesus as your Savior. Please write again.